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1. Original Movie Posters
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Movie Posters: Factors That Determine Value
3.
All About Fakes and
Reprints
4.
"Minty White" Fake Inserts
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STAR WARS
Bootlegs/Restrikes/Fakes
6.
BEWARE OF FAKE MOVIE POSTERS!!
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Caring
For Movie Posters
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Cheap Framing
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Tips on Framing
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About Autographs
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Linen Backing: A Method of
Poster Conservation
12.
Photographing Posters
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Buying From
Auction Houses, What You Need to Know
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Revenge of the Jedi
15.
Re-Strikes
16.
What are your posters worth? Are they original?
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Linen Backing
and Restoration: How Does It Affect Value?
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Seeing Fakes, Angry Traders Confront Ebay
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Pulp Fiction Advance One Sheet: Beware of Bootlegs
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Beware of Fake Scarface One Sheets and Inserts
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I Have Some Old Movie Posters and I'm Thinking of
Selling Them: What Can I Expect?
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Original Movie Posters
By David A. Lieberman
An
original movie poster can be defined as: A poster that was issued for a movie by
the National Screen Service (NSS), or by a movie studio, or by another company
authorized by the studio FOR DISPLAY IN AN ACTUAL MOVIE THEATER at the time of
the films original release.
Advertising posters used outside a theater (wilding, bus shelter, subway, and
billboard) during an original release are also considered original movie
posters.
There are also "Studio Issued" original movie posters. These were printed at the
same time as theatrical display posters. Although usually not meant for
theatrical display, they are still considered original. They were distributed to
"insiders" and those who worked on the film.
Posters
that were made to be sold to the public in stores or on line are
reproductions/reprints or restrikes and are NOT original movie posters, even if
they were printed around the time of the films release. Films that are very
popular usually have all kinds of reproductions, licensed and unlicensed
(bootlegs) and they are always on ebay. The market is flooded with them.
Sometimes reproductions are so close in quality to originals that it is VERY
hard to tell them apart.
Video
posters are NOT original movie posters because they were issued to advertise the
movies release on videotape or dvd, not during the films original theatrical
release.
Original movie posters are HIGHLY collectible and can be worth thousands of
dollars. Reproduction posters are not very collectible and usually have little
if any value.
Just because a seller lists a poster in the ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTERS category on
Ebay, does NOT mean it is an original movie poster. Sellers often list their
reproduction posters there because they know they will be seen by more people as
no one really browses the non original category.
Older posters prior to the mid 1980's were usually (not always) issued folded
while newer posters are always issued rolled. Vintage original movie posters
were normally printed in very limited quantities, thus they are usually pretty
rare. All of them were not meant to be saved. After their initial use they were
supposed to be returned to the studio or destroyed.
Usually, the older the poster, the rarer it is. Original movie posters usually
contain an NSS information tag/paragraph and number. However, this is not always
true. There are plenty of original movie posters that do not contain NSS info..
And, to complicate matters, just because a poster has an NSS tagline, NSS
number, and a GAU (printer's union) logo, does not necessarily mean it is an
original movie poster. There are many fakes and reprints that have this printed
on them to make them appear more authentic.
Common standard sizes include: One Sheet 27"x41" or 27"x40", Insert 14"x36",
Half Sheet 22"x28", Three Sheet 41"x81", Six Sheet 81"x81", Lobby Card 11"x14",
Window Card 14"x22". Measurements on these can vary slightly, but usually by no
more than a half inch or so.
Common Reproduction sizes (not original movie posters) are: 24"x36", 20"x30",
11"x17" and anything slightly smaller than a standard size one sheet approx.
26"x39".
The above information applies to U.S. posters. Non U.S. movie posters have
different specs/sizes.
How can you tell if a movie poster
is "original"?
We get
this question all the time. There is never a simple answer. For every poster
there are different things to look for.
Here are
just SOME of them:
What is
the exact size?
Where
did it come from?
Is it
folded or rolled?
Does it
have a GAU logo?
Is there
an NSS number on the front?
Is there
an NSS stamp on the back?
Does it "look" and "feel" right?
What
kind of paper is it?
Is the
print quality good?
Are there known reprints or reproductions of it?
Every now and then we come
across a movie poster that seems too good to be true. One that is very old,
unused, and in near pristine condition. If you look at other collectibles,
there are coins, baseball cards and comic books that have survived for over
50 years in near mint condition. It doesn't happen often, but it does
happen.
People
send us photos all the time asking if their posters are original. We usually
can't answer definitively UNLESS WE SEE THE ITEM IN PERSON. We have handled many
thousands of vintage movie posters over the years. We know what to look for.
More than 99% of the time we can determine without a doubt, one way or the
other, if a poster is an original or a reproduction.
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Movie Posters: Factors That
Determine Value
By David A. Lieberman
The value of a movie poster depends on 6 primary factors; its
originality, its rarity, demand, its overall condition, the movie or stars popularity, and its beauty.
ORIGINALITY
Buying movie posters can be a wonderful experience, or it can be a
horrific nightmare. There are so many fake and/or reprint posters that appear to be
original
that sometimes even poster
dealers have a hard time determining what is authentic. Yes, there are
"fake" posters floating around out there (read more about this below). Most
people don't even know they have a fake. Many do know and try to pawn them off
to unsuspecting buyers on ebay! Fakes are virtually worthless.
RARITY
Prior to the 1990's,
original movie
posters were printed in limited quantities.
They were supposed to be returned to the studio or destroyed after use, they are truly rare. Usually,
the older the poster, the rarer it is. . Some sizes of posters are much rarer and
thus more valuable than others. In the U.S. for example, very few
3 sheets and 6
sheets were printed thus they are extremely hard to come by compared to the
standard issue one sheet for the same title. Reprints and fakes are printed in
unlimited quantities, therefore they are not rare.
DEMAND
A poster
may be incredibly rare, but that alone does not make it valuable. There has to
be demand for it. For example, there are many obscure films from the 1920's and
1930's where almost no material exists. This does not mean that collectors want
posters from them or will pay a premium for them. On the other hand, there are
some posters that are in abundant supply yet they always sell at a premium
because demand for them is high (e.g. Star Wars style A one sheet).
CONDITION
The condition of a poster greatly affects its value. Since many people
inaccurately describe and grade their posters it is very easy to get "taken"
without actually seeing the poster in person. Any
restoration done will also affect value. We accurately describe all our
posters and use the
grading scale
for
movie posters developed by Jon Warren.
MOVIE OR STARS POPULARITY
People collect and display things
they love. Everyone has their favorite movie and favorite movie stars. A movie
or movie stars popularity is one of the determining factors of how collectible
and valuable a poster is. Marilyn Monroe and Elvis posters for example usually
demand a premium, even for lesser known movies they were in.
BEAUTY
If a movie poster has a great design or beautiful
artwork it can significantly increase it's value. One of the best examples of
this is the U.S. poster for the Noir film Chinatown.
Several foreign issues have
very colorful and incredible artwork, many times surpassing the U.S. version
in design quality.
For example, the Italian and British version of The Godfather
features a profile of Marlon Brando unlike the U.S. version making it highly
sought after. The Australian daybill for Halloween is the only poster
from the first Halloween movie to actually feature Michael Myers making it
extremely collectible and hard to obtain. The From Russia With Love
poster from the U.S. can not even compare to the beautiful stone litho French
version.
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All About Fakes and Reprints
By David A. Lieberman
Movie posters can be found at flea markets,
garage sales, local
poster shops, and especially on the internet and on
Ebay. There are also many
FAKES, “generously graded" items, frauds, scam
artists, reprints, reissues, reproductions, bootlegs, counterfeits, etc. Yes,
these items can be found in your local poster shop! They are CONSTANTLY being
pawned off on Ebay to unsuspecting, uneducated buyers. There are MANY people who are not poster
experts selling what THEY believe to be an original movie poster.
Inaccurate descriptions are quite common. Generally, one only has to worry about
blatant fakes for movies released after 1970. Fakes are only known to exist in
the insert, half sheet, and one sheet size.
REPRODUCTIONS exist for almost all
popular titles, but these usually are easily to spot. For example, years ago Portal
Publications was a company that reproduced MANY popular older posters. These
were licensed, but since some of these are actually 30 to 50 years old some
people mistake them for original movie posters. Another example is Suncoast.
For years they sold movie posters in their mall stores with labels marked
"Original Movie Poster". They were NOT original theater posters, they were
printed exclusively for the Suncoast stores. Suncoast was sued because of this
false label and has since changed the wording on their label.
Be careful!
Reprints, Reproductions, and Fakes are not issued by the studio or
NSS for theatrical display. They
are not valuable or collectible!
They are however found everywhere. At
first glance they may appear to be exactly the same as the original.
Most however are slightly smaller. They usually come in sizes similar to one sheets or inserts.
There are rare instances of posters being reprinted years later by the studio.
These usually differ slightly from the
real original studio issues. A good example of this is in the early 1980's all the
James Bond movie one sheets were reprinted as well as Raiders of the Lost Ark.
These constantly turn up on ebay.
There are
printers, mostly overseas (some licensed, some not) that copy the real studio
issued posters. Sometimes they are marked as reprints, sometimes they aren't.
They sell them in bulk mostly to shady U.S. poster dealers. Some dealers correctly
advertise and sell them as reprints, some do not. These printers now even print
double sided in an attempt to fool the
collecting novice. They are usually easy to spot due to subtle
differences in size and printing quality, although examples exist that are
meant to deceive, including popular
titles such as Jaws, all the Star Wars movies, Raiders of the lost Ark, Raging
Bull, Apocalypse Now, Taxi Driver, Blade Runner, Scarface, and others. Even
some of the newer popular titles like “Spiderman” and “The Matrix” have fakes
and reprints. BEWARE!
Reprints or fakes can be very
good, many times even fooling experts.
This is especially true for many of the
popular movies from the 70’s and 80’s. There are also some dealers
on ebay (criminals) selling what they claim are originals, KNOWING they are fakes. Believe it or
not, some of the dealers even BELIEVE the fake posters are real! Some just look
the other way.
These crooks are mainly from ROCHESTER, N.Y. and OKLAHOMA.
(There are a few others scattered around the U.S., the U.K., and the rest of the
world.) They have even gone as far as
setting up a VERY elaborate website to try and prove that their posters are
original. The site is full of ridiculous misinformation and blatant lies.
Anyone who questions them on the authenticity of one of these
fake posters is directed to the web site where a cartoonish looking
"Professor Powers" tells
you there are no fake movie posters, just different "printings" and/or they are
part of a "warehouse find". The web site is pathetic, there is no such person as
Professor Powers. It is a well known Rochester NY dealer (or maybe it's the guy
from Oklahoma?) with a fake wig and beard. If one was not an expert and did not
know any better and one of these dishonest dealers pointed you to this website,
you might tend to believe him.
Some of these
fraudulent dealers have been around for over
20 years! If you think being a dealer for a long time and having 1000+ positive
feedback on ebay makes one honorable….think again. Most people who buy from
these "dealers" don’t know they
have been ripped off, and they may never find out. Only when they go to sell
their fake
years later do they find out the bad news.
One
of the saddest things (and we see this quite frequently) is when an unknowing
collector tries to sell their fake. They absolutely refuse to face reality that
their poster is not genuine. They refuse to believe they were ripped off because
the dealer they got it from swore up and down that it was real, seemed so nice,
knowledgeable, and trustworthy (these are all the elements of a successful
thief!!). Their logic is "well, if a DEALER told me it is authentic then it
just has to be!!". This is absolutely absurd, but that is just the way some
people think.
Beware of "LIGHTLY FOLDED" Star Wars one sheets!!
Ebay scam artists are now lightly folding their fake rolled Style C and Teaser B
one sheets. They are doing this because it makes them appear more authentic.
They are having trouble selling these rolled fakes so they are trying this method.
How do these deceitful
dealers get away with it? Well, this hobby is unregulated. There are no “poster
police”. It truly is “buyer beware”. Ebay has become a haven for criminal
activity, and they are unwilling and/or powerless to stop it.
Sadly, there is no
way for anybody to stop it!
So, how do you tell the
difference between real and fake movie posters? See our article below about
"Minty White" fake inserts. For more information on the origin of fakes and
reprints and how to spot them, please visit
learnaboutmovieposters.com.
In addition, the highly regarded site
iguide.net has a movie poster forum that discusses many of the fake posters
in detail.
Even if a poster has an
NSS tagline
and a
GAU logo,
it does not guarantee authenticity. There are authorized reproductions of
classic 50's and 60's U.S. posters that include these.
Here are
just of few of the
many titles that have been reprinted or faked over the years. Some are easy to spot, some
are not. This list is not
complete, it is forever growing:
2001 A Space Odyssey, insert
A Clockwork Orange, insert,
British Quad
Alien, insert
Apocalypse Now, insert
Annie Hall, insert and one sheet
Barbarella, one sheet
Blade Runner, one sheet and insert
Breakfast Club, one sheet
Casino, one sheet
Enforcer, insert and half sheet
Empire Strikes Back, Style A (Gone
with the Wind) insert and
Style A half sheet
Grease, insert
Goodfellas, one sheet
Halloween, one sheet
The Godfather, one sheet and
insert
Jaws, one sheet and insert
Jailhouse Rock, one sheet and
insert
Manhattan, one sheet and insert
The Matrix, one sheet
Pulp Fiction, recalled advance and
regular issue one sheet
Pretty Woman, one sheet
Raiders of the Lost Ark, one sheet
and insert
Raging Bull, one sheet and insert
Revenge of the Jedi, one sheet
Return of the Jedi, insert
Rocky, one sheet
Shaft, one sheet
Shining, insert
Sixteen candles, one sheet
Star Trek, inset
Star Wars style A, one sheet and
insert
Star Wars style B Advance Teaser, one
sheet
Star Wars style C, one sheet
Star Wars style D, one sheet
Saving Private Ryan, one sheet
Saturday Night Fever, insert
Scarface, one sheet and insert
Spiderman Advance and Regular, one sheet
Shawshank Redemption, one sheet
Taxi Driver, one sheet and insert
Terminator, one sheet
Wall Street, one sheet
LOBBY CARD SETS-
There are also a ton of fake lobby card sets from popular movies like Star Wars,
Empire Strikes Back, Jaws, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Goodfellas,
Caddyshack, etc., etc..
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"Minty White" Fake Inserts
By David A. Lieberman
As you can see from the list
directly above, there are at least 20 highly collectible titles that have fake inserts. Inserts are
printed on card stock and measure 14" x 36". There has been much talk about this
topic within the past few years between the top dealers and collectors of movie
posters. Every major dealer and name in this hobby has expressed their opinion
on this and ALL agree that it is a MAJOR problem. The only ones who believe these
inserts are real are the ones who are selling them every week on ebay. They say
they are from "a warehouse find". This is total B.S.. They have an
endless supply. There are also a select
few fake lobby card sets and half sheets. Half Sheets measure 22" x 28" and are also on card stock.
So how do you spot them? Well
first of all, as far as anybody has researched, the above titles are the only
ones known with confirmed bootlegs. The bootlegs have the NSS info. and GAU
markings like the originals. If they
are "Minty White" and look brand new like they were printed
yesterday........they probably were! If they are glossy on both sides, they are
fake. If you see it for sale on ebay for a low "buy it now" price, and this same
dealer has been selling them continuously for years.....it is most likely a
fake. You can disregard their almost perfect feedback record....it is completely
irrelevant. They sell a ton of "real" original posters, but they also sell these
fakes continuously. They do not care that they are ruining the hobby. None of the buyers knows they have been burned until it is
too late and they have already left positive feedback. These dealers prey on newbies that are unaware that fake posters even exist!!
THE TRUTH BEHIND THESE FAKES:
Some time ago, a few
ROCHESTER, NEW YORK and OKLAHOMA poster dealers
got together and hired a printer to run off thousands of these bogus posters.
The printer did not know what he was doing was illegal. Not that it matters
anyway because no one would press charges against him. These criminal dealers
are counterfeiters, they got away with it, and continue to get away with it!!
If you are
the unfortunate owner of one or more of these and you ever try to sell them, you
will be lucky if you get more than $5.00 for them. No reputable dealer or
knowledgeable buyer will go near them.
How do experts know they are
fakes? The major problem with these posters is that they are printed on a type
of paper that has never been used to print any other movie poster....ever! They
look BRAND NEW. They are glossy on both sides (usually). The cropping, markings,
and artwork is sometimes slightly different from known originals when compared
side by side. The printing quality is pretty good....but not as good as
originals when examined closely.
There were thousands of movies
released during the same era (1970's - early 1980's). Other than the above
highly collectible titles.......NOT ONE OF THESE COMMON ORDINARY "NOT VERY
COLLECTIBLE" TITLES HAS EVER APPEARED ON THE SAME KIND OF PAPER AS THESE
OBVIOUSLY FAKE INSERTS. The fact is they are pretty easy to spot, but
only if you are familiar with what a real insert looks and feels like.
These same unscrupulous dealers
that have an endless supply of these fake inserts also regularly sell fake one
sheets including Star Wars Teaser B's, "Hairy Belt" Star Wars Style A's, fake
Star Wars Style C's, Bootleg "Miramax stamped" Pulp Fiction, Spiderman "recalled
version" ....... as well as many others.
I have been threatened with legal
action from these criminal dealers if I mention their names. I won't be doing
that anymore, all I can say is buyer beware.
8 factors that will help you to
determine if you have a fake/bootleg movie poster:
A fake movie poster may not
possess all the characteristics described below, but it will definitely have
most of them.
1.
Is it "minty white"? Just because a poster looks brand new does not mean it is a
fake. It is just the first obvious sign that it is. This must be combined with
at least some of the other factors below to confirm it is a fake.
2.
Have they been continuously for sale by the same
Rochester, NY dealers for the past
5+ years?
3.
Are they slightly blurry when compared to undisputed originals?
4.
Is the art work slightly different
than known originals?
5.
Is the suspect title one that is highly collectible?
6.
Is it on a glossy type of paper, usually both sides glossy, that has not been
used on any other type of movie poster ever? (except for the confirmed 19 or so
highly collectible bootlegged titles listed above)
7. Are the overall measurements
significantly different than known originals? Bootlegs often are smaller by at
least a quarter of an inch or more, but this is not always the case.
8. Did you buy it for a "steal"?
If you think you got a great deal by buying a poster on ebay, go back and look
at the auction. Was the auction description vague? Did the seller have a lot of
feedback? Was he from Rochester? Was the picture small or blurry? Did a lot of people bid
on it? Were they seemingly knowledgeable people judging by their
feedback/experience? Was it a "PRIVATE" auction? Dishonest sellers often make
their auctions private (you can't see the bidders identities) so honest people
can't warn bidders that they are about to be ripped off.
UPDATE:
Minty Whites That Aren't Minty White Anymore!!
Recently in June 2007 we acquired a Jaws insert that looked and felt right. It
was not "minty white", was not glossy on both sides, and the printing was
fantastic. We listed it as an original. We had no reason to believe it wasn't
authentic. We have handled a TON of fake inserts....so we know what to look for.
This one completely fooled US!! It was originally acquired about 6-7 years ago
on ebay from a known fake seller in Oklahoma. The paper has aged!! It does NOT
look fake anymore!! Someone brought it to our attention and after a little
investigating we found out where it originated from. These things are
DANGEROUS!!! and as time goes by they are going to look more and more real and
fool more and more people. They are ruining the hobby for new collectors.
BEWARE!!!
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STAR WARS Bootlegs/Restrikes/Fakes
By David A. Lieberman
Tons of fakes exist for the Style
A, B, and C one sheets. The Style A insert has also been faked (see above).

Style A
Style B Teaser Style C
There
DEFINITELY ARE
bootlegs/restrikes/fakes/whatever you want to call them. They are always on ebay
for sale from a few unscrupulous dealers (the same ones who sell the fake "minty
white" inserts, the fake "Miramax stamped" Pulp Fiction advances, as well as
others). These dealers WRONGLY advertise them as ORIGINAL movie posters (in
fact, they HAVE TO say they are original because ebay policy forbids selling
counterfeit items!!). THEY
ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT REAL, AUTHENTIC, OR ORIGINAL! They were printed without authorization using the same plates and
printed on the same printing press sometime in the mid to late
1980's. I AM 100% CERTAIN OF THIS. They are not
"original movie posters".
They are of outstanding quality though and they still fool many dealers today.
They are exactly the same size and the print quality is almost exactly the same. All of
this has been well documented before. In short, in the late 1980's Lucasfilm sued and had a bunch of them destroyed. Some of them (a lot of them!)
escaped.
They contain
most of the same markings, BUT...there
are obvious differences if you compare them side by side. The most notable
differences are:
Style A 1sh-
bootleg/restrike/fake has a hair on Luke's belt.
Style B 1sh- bootleg/restrike/fake has NO GAU logo on the bottom
Style C 1sh- bootleg/restrike/fake has a hair Leia's back.
The only people
on planet earth who believe these posters are authentic originals are the
criminals who have been selling them every week on ebay for the past 5 plus
years. Most of these dealers for some reason come from Rochester. There is also
one in Oklahoma and few in other parts of the U.S. and the rest of the world. They have an
endless supply. Since word has spread among knowledgeable dealers and collectors, it has
become difficult for them to sell these rolled mint fakes....so what do they do
now? They make them appear more authentic by saying they are "theater used".
They lightly fold them or put pin holes in the corners. They also have now
started linen backing them. They sell these fakes along with thousands of other
genuine original real posters from other movies. Their feedback is usually near
perfect because those who have been duped HAVE NO IDEA!! They have ripped off
thousands of people over the years, these fake posters are everywhere!!
These crooks have even set up an elaborate website with a
phony "Professor Powers". Anyone who questions these dealers on the authenticity
of their items is told to visit the website where this fictional professor
basically says there are no such thing as fakes/bootlegs. The site is a total
joke and a complete scam.
Dealers have known about these fakes for quite some time.
Some choose to ignore the facts because they paid a lot for them and are still
trying to unload them.
The Official Tomart's Price Guide to Worldwide Star Wars
Collectibles makes reference to these fakes.......BACK IN 1997! This book was
authorized by Lucasfilm. It's author, Steve Sansweet, is an employee of
Lucasfilm.
Page 135: "Unfortunately, most of the Star Wars style A,
B-advance and C one-sheets being sold widely today are bootlegs (the quality is
a little less than perfect, with images a bit more hazy than they should be), as
are many Revenge of the Jedi posters and the infamous U.S. Triple Bill poster.
The artwork on fake style A posters is slightly smaller than the original, and
the "©1977 Twentieth Century-Fox" line directly under the artwork on the left
side is flush with the border on the bootleg, rather than being indented about
one-eighth inch like the real one. The color is also slightly different. Bootleg
style B posters have some smearing around a few of the letters, and the oval
union label to the left of center in the bottom border is missing. On style C
bootlegs, the faces of the characters have a yellowish cast, rather than the
original orange-brown flesh tone."
In early 2005, a genuine rolled mint Style C sold for over
$1000.00 on ebay.
In 2004, a genuine rolled Style A sold for $650.00 on ebay.
In 2005 we sold one on ebay for over $1500.00!!
In 2004, a genuine rolled Style B sold for $575.00 on ebay.
There are also fakes for "The Empire Strikes Back" and the
recalled one sheet for "Revenge of the Jedi". For details on these please see
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BEWARE OF FAKE MOVIE POSTERS!!
By David A. Lieberman,
written for Ebay Guides
There is a
good reason why this is the NUMBER ONE RANKED GUIDE in the Movie Memorabilia
category on eBay. People are sick and tired of getting ripped off by shady
dealers!
Every major professional movie poster dealer and knowledgeable long time
collector knows that there are FAKE movie posters all over Ebay. These are
illegally printed non licensed reproductions made with the intent to deceive
novice buyers. They are NOT ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTERS and have little if any
value. They are from very popular movies (the "good titles", the ones
everyone wants).
Some of these bootlegs have been around SINCE THE LATE 1980'S.....FOR OVER
20 YEARS! They are very good quality fakes and often fool some experienced
dealers and collectors. Some of the ones you see are from sellers who
honestly don't know they are not original, BUT THERE ARE A FEW BAD GUYS who
know exactly what they have! They have been selling them to newbies (new,
non experienced collectors) for years on ebay and at collector shows. They
have an endless supply of these reproductions. Their ebay feedback is great
because buyers do not know they have been ripped off (until it is too late).
These con artists also sell a lot of authentic material, but a good portion
of their sales are of bootleg/fake posters. There is no way for anyone to
prove they are fake, so they will be able to continue selling them. There
are no "poster police" and the major studios really do not care. If you ask
any reputable poster dealer or poster expert that has had the opportunity to
closely examine them, they will tell you these are not original movie
posters.
These bozos have even gone as far as setting up a SCAM website with a phony
"Professor Powers" to help sell their fakes. The "Professor" claims to be a
former NSS employee with inside knowledge about movie posters. The
"Professor" is not a real person. He is actually a dishonest dealer from
Rochester N.Y. with a pathetic looking fake beard and wig. The scam website
was built by 2 shady dealers from Rochester (Tom and Ed) with the help of
another dishonest dealer in Oklahoma (Rick). It is full of ridiculous lies
and misinformation.
Star Wars
THIS INFORMATION CAN ALSO BE FOUND IN THE NEW STAR WARS POSTER BOOK
PUBLISHED IN 2005 BY LUCASFILM.
On page 289 of this book, it goes into detail describing exactly what is
said below. There ARE bootlegs of Star Wars posters! Don't let any dishonest
seller try and tell you otherwise. These bootlegs are of exceptional
quality, and to the untrained eye can easily appear authentic. The reason
they appear so real is because they were printed from the same plates as the
originals, only it was done over 10 years later in the late 1980's! There
are very subtle differences, you have to know what to look for or you can
easily be fooled.
Look out for "lightly folded" Star Wars style A, B, and C full size 27"x41"
one sheets. These are the most counterfeited movie posters in history! To
make them appear "theater used", the bad guys have started to fold them
because they were having trouble selling them rolled. It makes them appear
more authentic if they are folded. Sometimes after they fold them they put
pin holes in them and even go as far as getting them linen backed! The style
A bootleg will have a small hair on Luke's belt, the style B bootleg will be
missing the GAU logo, and the Style C bootleg will have a small hair on
Leia's back. If you ask the few unscrupulous dealers who have an endless
supply of these (they have been selling them non stop on Ebay since the late
90's) they will try to convince you that they are just a "printing
variation" that is common with all movie posters. This is a blatant lie, but
to an uninformed new collector it sounds like a reasonable excuse. None of
these fakes has EVER come from a theater and none were EVER printed for
theater use. These are UNAUTHORIZED RESTRIKES!! (see below). They have been
around since the late 80's and they are of excellent quality. These fakes
were first documented in The Tomarts' Price Guide to Worldwide Star Wars
Collectibles.....back in 1997!!! They are also documented in the new 2005
Star Wars Poster Book. These books are authorized by Lucasfilm. The author
is Steve Sansweet who is THE Star Wars collectibles expert and is employed
by Lucasfilm. Anyone who tries to convince you that these are authentic
original one sheets is just flat out lying to you. They normally sell these
fakes for about $100.00. Authentic original ones will typically sell for
many hundreds of dollars and sometimes well over $1000.00.
There are also fake "minty white" 14"x36" insert movie posters for Star
Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi (see below).
These bootlegs are now about 20 years old! Some can even look aged/old like
an original. There are many thousands in circulation.
Also be wary of Revenge of the Jedi one sheets. These were bootlegged within
a few months of the posters initial release/recall back in 1982!! The fakes
are now 25 years old, just like the originals!! There are at least 3
different kinds of bootlegs of this one!!
Pulp Fiction etc.
Beware of Pulp Fiction recalled advance one sheets. Real ones are extremely
scarce and can sell for over $1000.00. The bad guys had a rubber "PROPERTY
OF MIRAMAX FILMS" stamp made and take the common $8.99 reproduction poster
and stamp the back of it to make it appear authentic. Real Pulp Fiction
advances do not have this stamp. Miramax has NEVER stamped any of their
posters!! There are also some other differences between the fake and
original (this info. can be found elsewhere). LOOK OUT! The thieves in
Rochester have also started selling them for "Buy it Now" $75.00. Sometimes
with the ridiculous stamp, sometimes without it.
Also be wary of rolled or lightly folded full size 27"x41" Scarface (regular
style U.S.) one sheets. These are some of the best bootlegs out there! These
are extremely difficult to spot.
Beware of Friday the 13th one sheets that measure 27"x40" and not a full
27"x41". They are restrikes from the early 1990's.
Beware of Raiders of the Lost Ark one sheets that measure 27"x40" and not a
full 27"x41". They are restrikes from the early 1990's.
Beware of Manhattan style B "Bridge" rolled one sheets. They measure a full
27"x41" but most you will find are restrikes.
Beware of FOLDED fake TAXI DRIVER one sheets. These thieves are buying a
cheap $10.00 reproduction poster, folding it, and then selling it for
$170.00 or more.
What is a Restrike?
A RESTRIKE IS NOT AN ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTER!! They were NOT printed for
theater use. They are posters that were printed (usually from the original
plates) well after the films release. Usually MANY years after. Sometimes
they were authorized by the studio, sometimes they weren't. They were sold
to dealers in bulk and also directly to collectors through mail order ads.
Sometimes it is very hard to determine whether a poster is an original or a
restrike.
Double
Sided Bootlegs!
Look out for double sided reproduction/fake one sheets of some current
titles including:
Spiderman (recalled Twin Towers style), The Matrix, Saving Private Ryan, The
Shawshank Redemption, Star Wars Phantom Menace Episode 1 Teaser.
Yes, there ARE double sided bootlegs out there!! These are of exceptional
quality and come from Europe.
"Minty White"
Counterfeit 14"x36" Inserts
Beware of "minty white" (like they were printed yesterday) 14"x36" inserts.
There are roughly a few dozen popular titles from the 70's and early 80's
that have fake bootleg inserts. Some of the titles include Star Wars, Empire
Strikes Back, Jaws, Taxi Driver, The Godfather, Raiders of the Lost Ark, A
Clockwork Orange, Alien, Star Trek, Blade Runner, Scarface, etc.. These
minty whites are constantly available from the same sellers for about $70.00
to $100.00. If you question them they claim they are part of a "warehouse
find". The truth is that some unscrupulous dealers from Rochester N.Y. and
Oklahoma got together some years ago and illegally printed thousands of
them. They have been flooding the market with them ever since. If you buy
one and compare it side by side with a known original, you will have no
doubt it is not real. In addition to being minty white, there are other
factors like paper and print quality that prove they are fake.
UPDATE: Minty Whites
That Aren't Minty White Anymore!!
In June 2007
we acquired a Jaws insert that looked and felt right. It was not "minty
white", was not glossy on both sides, and the printing was fantastic. We
listed it as an original, we had no reason to believe it wasn't. We have
handled a TON of fake/repro inserts....so we know what to look for. This one
completely fooled US!! It was originally acquired about 6-7 years ago on
ebay from a known fake/repro seller in Oklahoma. The paper has aged!! It
does NOT look new anymore!! Someone brought it to our attention and after a
little investigating we found out where it originated from. It is certainly
not from the original release in 1975, we believe it is a restrike from the
1980's. These things are DANGEROUS!!! and as time goes by they are going to
look more and more real and fool more and more people. They are ruining the
hobby for new collectors. BEWARE!!!
"Minty White"
Counterfeit 11"x14" Lobby Card Sets
Beware of "minty white" lobby card sets from popular titles from the 70's
and 80's (see list above). These are very easy for the bootleggers to
reproduce because of their small size. Believe it or not, they have even
started printing sets that have never before existed! A good example of this
is the U.S. "Halloween" lobby card set. There were NO U.S. lobby cards
produced for this movie, so someone in Rochester, N.Y. decided to make their
own!!
Please note: This guide has not mentioned every title that there are fake
posters for! There are plenty of others that are not listed here. Also, just
because a poster appears new and minty white does not mean it is a fake.
There are plenty of older posters that have survived in this condition.
Since many of these bootlegs have been around now for quite a few years,
some are now starting to be sold again on ebay from the original duped
buyers. They honestly don't know they have fake posters and they are
inadvertently ripping off new buyers!
Who are the ones
selling these fakes?
We can't say here (and please don't email us asking who they are). All we
can say is beware of certain dealers. With a little detective work outside
of Ebay you can easily find out exactly who they are. There are movie poster
forums, movie poster chat rooms, and other places that discuss everything
about movie posters and you can find the answers there.
Where do they come from?
As we said above, many of the fakes come from Rochester N.Y. and from
Oklahoma.
If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
Guide ID:
10000000001405090Guide created:
07/16/06 (updated 08/15/07)
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Caring for Movie Posters
By David A. Lieberman
There have been many articles on
this subject so I will only touch on it briefly. If you are going to display
a vintage poster,
linen backing
and then framing it is the best way. Not all posters need linen backing however,
but if it is an older poster and you wish to preserve it, it is a good idea. If
you are not going to linen back it, it should be framed with acid free backing
and UV filtered Plexiglas.
Do not use glass.
Glass can stick to the face of a poster over time. Do not have your poster dry
mounted to foam core as many collectors believe this to be undesirable.
If you collect posters and you do
not wish to frame all of them, storing them can become a challenge. The
preferred method for
rolled posters
would be flat, but this is not feasible for everyone so the next best thing is
to store them rolled, but NOT in cardboard tubes. The acid from cardboard can
age/yellow a poster. Plastic tubes are fine. Some say that over time fumes from
PVC tubes can stain posters. We keep our rolled posters wrapped in plastic bags
and insert them into open tubes and keep them out of the light to help prevent
aging/yellowing. Rolled posters should be stored STANDING UP if possible. If a
rolled poster is stored lying down, over time it may sag and waves can develop.
For long term storage of
folded posters we keep them in Mylar bags with acid free backing,
NOT REGULAR CARDBOARD.
Folding and unfolding posters can
cause excessive wear on the fold lines and possibly cause separations. Try not
to unfold your stored posters.
Light Box Displays look great in
home theatres, however they can fade posters over time and ruin their value. Do
not put expensive posters in them.
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Cheap Framing
By David A. Lieberman
If you have a
lot of posters, displaying them can cost a small fortune. All acid free
materials should be used. Never use Glass. Glass can stick to the face of the
poster over time. Never use regular cardboard for backing as it is very acidic
and will stain/yellow a poster over time.
The following is a
cheap, safe way to frame your posters and they are easy to remove and replace
with others as desired. This is the method we use in our showroom.
Buy foam core and
Plexiglas,
these should be available at a wholesale plastics or framing supplier. Be sure
to ask for acid free foam core.
They come in 4' x 8'
sheets. Foam cor is about $8.00/sheet.
It comes in black and white, but black looks really good if you plan on leaving
borders. Buy non glare Plexiglas one sixteenth of an inch thick for about
$35.00/sheet. UV filtered sheets cost quite a bit more ($60.00 to $80.00). If
your poster is valuable, don't skimp! Get the UV filtered!.
Cut foam core and
plastic about 2 to 3 inches larger than the poster on all sides. The plastic
supplier should be able to cut the plastic for you for a nominal price.
You can frame 3 one
sheets from a 4' x 8' sheet of Plexiglas.
Use
small office paper binder clips to hold it all together. This works surprisingly
well!! You can remove the steel handles from the clips after you put them on for
a much cleaner look.
Now, how do you
hang it? On the top border in the middle about 1 inch from the top of the
Plexiglas, mount on the back a picture hanger. You will have to drill through
the Plexiglas and fome cor 2 small holes to do this. You can buy the picture
hanger at Home Depot and mount it to the back with tiny screws you will also
have to buy.
To frame a one sheet costs less than $20.00. If you use UV filtered Plexiglas it
costs about $35.00. It is well protected and the poster will not slide/move at
all. It is very light weight and sturdy enough to hang. I've done all sizes
including 3 sheets and French One Panels and they look fantastic!!!
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Tips on Framing
By David A. Lieberman
The right frame
is very important for preserving your original valuable movie posters. NEVER use
glass! Glass can stick to the face of a poster over time. Even if the framer
uses a mat the poster will almost always touch the glass in the middle. You
should use
UV filtered
Plexiglas to help prevent fading. We prefer the non glare kind.
Use archival all ACID FREE materials like acid
free foam core. NEVER use cardboard as a backing because it is acidic and can
cause yellowing.
For linen backed posters: Never trim the linen
right up to the edge of the poster. Always leave at least a half inch or more
border all the way around the poster.
Never let your framer mount it to foam core. It
will be considered ruined by the collecting community and VERY difficult to
sell.
Never let your framer use ANY kind of tape to
secure your poster to the backing. Not even removable tape and not even acid
free tape. THE POSTER SHOULD SIT LOOSELY IN THE FRAME.
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About Autographs
By David A. Lieberman
Rarely do we
sell movie posters that have autographs. A few years ago, the FBI released a
study suggesting that up to 80% of celebrity autographs for sale are fake.
Even many for sale in high end "reputable" galleries were found to be fake. It
is next to impossible to verify an autograph, and it is extremely difficult to
get cast members from classic films to jointly sign a poster. Modern era
posters are the exception, but these are so easy to fake that finding
authentic ones is a virtual nightmare.
We are certain that
most celebrity autographs that you see today are just
not genuine. When we see "cast" signed movie posters on Ebay, we just cringe.
We can assure you that 99% of them are totally fake. Our customers often send
us these posters that come with Certificates of Authenticity. We just have
to roll our eyes and explain to them that a C.O.A. in today's world means absolutely nothing. "But they
have great feedback on ebay, so how can they be selling fakes?" Good feedback
on ebay does not guarantee that a seller is selling genuine items. This is a
cold hard fact that many people find out too late, usually years later when
they try to re-sell the item. Our professional reputation and credibility is
far more important to us then the proceeds from the sale of questionable
autographs. Occasionally though, we come across an autographed
poster where everything points to it being genuine and we can guarantee its authenticity.
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Linen Backing: A Method of
Poster Conservation
Linen backing can dramatically
improve the overall appearance of a poster and it can substantially increase
its value. It is an archival poster conservation method where the poster is
de-acidified and museum mounted with wheat paste onto acid free Japanese rice paper and adhered to
canvas. This process
provides stability and prevents possible deterioration. It smoothes and flattens out waves and
wrinkles and makes creases and folds much less noticeable (sometimes
invisible). If needed,
restoration can then be done.
Stains can be removed, tears can be repaired, paper can be replaced, and
fold lines can be touched up. Almost any flaw can be fixed so you would
never know it was there. Once linen backed, a
poster is easier to handle, is ready for framing, or it may be rolled for
shipping. If not framing a linen backed poster, we recommend storing it flat
and not rolled. Should a linen backed poster
sustain physical damage in the future, removal of the poster is possible.
This cannot be said for most other preservation methods. Framing a poster that
has already been linen backed is cheaper than framing one that hasn't been.
When a poster has been linen backed and/or
restored,
grading the item can be difficult. A poster that was in poor condition could
have extensive restoration and appear to be in near mint condition. Only an
expert would be able to tell how much restoration was done.
If a poster we have
has had any restoration, we describe its condition before and after whenever
possible.
The value of an expertly
restored linen backed poster is enhanced because the poster looks better, will
age far less, and is much EASIER TO FRAME. If a poster is linen backed by a
less talented restorer, the poster's value is often lessened. The restoration
is often noticeable, it often ages poorly, and can be very expensive to
reverse.
Buying linen backed posters is a
double-edged sword. The plus side is that the poster almost surely looks great
(because the restorer almost surely corrected the poster's flaws during the
linen backing process) and the poster is now far easier (and far less
expensive) to frame, but the down side is that some restorers are so talented
that it can be extremely difficult to tell how much restoration a poster has
had.
Linen backing is not absolutely necessary for most posters,
but for a valuable one it is a
good idea because it helps to preserve it. Experts have different opinions
on whether a double sided poster should be linen backed or not.
Mounting a poster to foam core is not the same as linen backing. It is next to
impossible to reverse the process and most experts consider the poster
"damaged".
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